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I was expecting possible heresy here; absolutely none detected (except it doesn't talk about Orthodoxy but hey, I didn't write it.) Like the icons of the Philosophers in Churches in Greece, Christ blesses and saves the native culture, elevating the people so that they may attain union with God. Great essay!

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"20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some." --1 Cor 9

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Gotta say, I really dig this article. It explains exactly what I've wanted to tell people for years, but couldn't because I didn't know how to phrase it: that elements of "pagan" culture from before were not appropriations nor a secret persistence of paganism beneath a Christian veneer, but a merging of local culture with the legacy of Christ's sacrifice where Christ was both accepted while local tradition was also integrated organically apart from a handful of heretical tidbits. Though it is worth pointing out that Estonia might be a singular exception where Christianity didn't succeed at taking off on a deeper level in Europe, due to historical reasons. (though I only started learning more about their history recently, so I could be wrong)

This also reveals (to me, anyway) something I didn't notice before: Iceland's increasing return to paganism. (though I guess you'd put paganism in quotes based on what you said about return) For awhile, I thought that maybe the Icelanders, being so far away from Rome, really were surface-level Christians. But as Jesus the Chieftain is substituted with Jesus the Shepherd once again, it seems to correlate with the rise of paganism in Iceland. Correlation doesn't always mean causation, of course, but it says a lot. Europe really does need a chieftain, even in these relatively more peaceful times. It explains why in Poland they built an enormous statue not of Jesus as shepherd, but Christ the King.

By the way, I'd love to share this on my Substack if it's all right with you. (I like to ask first: just weird like that, I guess)

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Reading this I’m reminded of a podcast I was listening to before, where the hosts were talking about how people accuse Christianity of “appropriating” pagan festivals (Christmas appropriated Yuletide / Winter Solstice, etc.) but how the reality is that it was simply that the newly-converted peoples were free to still celebrate their own festivals - in other words, they still retained their parochial traditions as well as being Christians. Gradually over time the pagan elements fell into the background; but this proves that Christianity was, from its earliest moments in Europe, not opposed to different tribes still adhering to their traditions.

I’ve explained this terribly but I hope you get my point.

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Mar 31, 2023Liked by The Saxon Cross

Thank you so much. I’ve been trying to put my finger on this for a while.

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Apr 1, 2023Liked by The Saxon Cross

Easily your best essay yet. Well done mate.

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Apr 2, 2023Liked by The Saxon Cross

Excellent piece, although I do disagree with one point. I do not think we should abandon European cultural heroes and stories, but Christians ought to emphasize those found in the Old Testament because of the ancient Israelite’s covenant with God. It’s the Hebrew’s special relationship with God that makes those stories and figures important to study. That said, European cultural history definitely should not be ignored.

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Apr 1, 2023Liked by The Saxon Cross

Great essay! It discusses something I feel Christians need to do more of, emphasize the Western European nature of Christianity rather than the Eastern Jewishness. The age of the Jews ended with the coming of Christ followed by the destruction of the Temple by the Romans in 70 AD. There is no need to revere them so much as their time has passed.

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Mar 7Liked by The Saxon Cross

Very interesting. Much of this resonates with my understanding of Scripture. It also echos thoughts of GK Chesterton in Everlasting Man and CS Lewis in That Hideous Strength. All Truth is God's Truth so it should not be surprising that we see truth in other cultures not Christian. Nor why many diverse flood and orign myths are familiar to us. It is why Aristotle can be read with profit.

I'm new to your writing, but in this context what role do you assign to the Hebrew Scripture, aka the Old Testament?

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Apr 3, 2023Liked by The Saxon Cross

Great piece, it gives you a new View rather than the old "pagan-jewish" accusations

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This is a great piece, it’s something I’ve felt for a while but never fully had the gumption to write, I was working my way towards it but didn’t have the time. This makes me feel like others are seeing the same point, really encouraging. Thank you for this.

When I was reading “Albion’s Seed” I noticed that before the Puritans many Europeans stuck to their naming customs and Hebrew OT names only really started showing up after. I was named after a Hebrew OT name and I like it, but my wife and give our kids traditional European “Pagan” names because as Catholics especially, we feel we are able to honor our pre-Christ ancestors without any qualms because of the exact points you’ve made, and will raise them understanding their heritage on the pre-and-post sides of Our Lord’s redemptive work. In fact, our catholic faith has given us a whole new window into a lot of our pre-Christian heritage as it’s survived in our Christian traditions in a really positive light... but I digress. Thanks again.

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Bravo my friend! Wonderfully well written essay. I couldn't agree more. I'm of mixed ethnic blood stock comprised mainly of Nordic and German on my mother's side, and African, Mexican, and Cherokee Indian on my dad's side. I've recently been reading Norse mythology and I love it. It's given me a sense of my ancestry. I'm a baptized and chrismated member of the Eastern Orthodox Church (in not so good standing right now unfortunately, I haven't made confession or received communion in a while) in the diocese of Antioch. I'm struggling to make my way back to Christ. But God bless you sir. Say a prayer for me. My name is Jordan but you can call me Moses (after my patron Saint Moses the Ethiopian). Peace and love to you and yours.

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I thought Jesus was a Jew.

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The Church, as in the Church with a capital "C" established by Christ and led by His Vicar on Earth, always, in its missionary activities, allowed maintenance and incorporation of local cultural elements into their adoption of the Faith, provided that those elements were not idolatrous, pagan, or contrary to the Faith. This was done throughout the world, from Africa to Asia. We don't have to look further than Southern Italy where Greeks were allowed to retain the Rite of Constantinople and enthusiastically encouraged to do so.

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Christian morality is about doing the right thing because it is right, and sometimes there is a cost associated with it. Jewish morality is transactional because it is ethnically driven and seeks the exaltation and elevation of one group at the expense of others.

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Also, this is a tremendous essay

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